OkiePC strongly advises against using CCW software and instead suggests using Click or Click Plus with Ethernet for optimal performance. CCW is deemed subpar compared to other options. For small projects without specific manufacturing requirements, Productivity 1000 is the preferred choice, though Click Plus offers the best value for money in my opinion.
Don't want to forget to mention - go 49ers! What a great game.
- 30-10-2024
- geniusintraining
When geniusintraining mentioned "Go 49ers!" after the game, it was clear that more Rodgers and less Favre could have changed the outcome. If that happened, we might be cheering for the Packers this weekend shouting "Go Pack Go!"
It's important to give him time to develop at his age, especially with the presence of Purdy on the team. Both players have a lot of games ahead of them to grow and mature.
- 31-10-2024
- geniusintraining
While Mark deserves credit, as Scottryan03 suggested, Automation Direct may be the perfect solution for the original poster's needs. The factories I worked in aboard my last ship were powered by Automation Direct PLCs exclusively. It seemed like my predecessor had a vested interest in the company, considering they had AD drives and HMIs integrated into every system. Although AD was efficient and user-friendly, I personally prefer working with Allen Bradley products. For more information, visit https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/home/home.
- 31-10-2024
- Bering C Sparky
AD's Productivity Series now features Codesys, enhancing productivity and efficiency.
Looking for affordable programmable logic controllers (PLCs)? Check out Automation Direct for high-quality options. While you may find some cheap PLCs on eBay as well, it's important to note that some software options like Proficy Machine Edition and CCW may not meet your expectations. In fact, many users rank Proficy Machine Edition as the worst, with CCW following closely behind.
The person inquiring may not be aware that CCW, short for Connected Components Workbench, is the software utilized for programming the Micro800 PLC as mentioned in the second post.
Concealed carry weapons (CCW) are essential for self-defense! The importance of practicing proper gun safety cannot be understated. Click is a reliable and effective method for protecting oneself.
For those looking to get started with programmable logic controllers (PLCs), I typically recommend a Siemens S7 starter kit. Unfortunately, the popular S7-1212 CPU, KTP400 Basic HMI, and TIA Portal with Step7 Basic software included in the kit have been out of stock for quite some time. This has caused the price to go overbudget due to the HMI component. However, you can still purchase the PLC and software separately for around $500. Just be sure to avoid the S7-1211 CPU if you plan on adding extra modules in the future, as it is not expandable.
tlf30 mentioned that Automation Direct is a reputable brand, with affordable PLC options available on eBay. They also expressed dissatisfaction with CCW software, suggesting that Proficy Machine Edition is even worse. Despite this, they admitted to successfully utilizing Click's in multiple projects.
When it comes to Raspberry Pi options, you have the freedom to choose the model that suits your needs, along with the CODESYS runtime (with a runtime license available for $60 if necessary, or otherwise with the ability to restart the 2-hour runtime indefinitely). Personally, I may be partial to this platform due to my frequent use of it, but it's hard to overlook the affordability of the hardware and the complimentary programming software. Additionally, the package comes with device drivers that facilitate interfacing with various industrial communication protocols.
Explore CCW for free using a simulator to determine if it aligns with popular opinions. While some users describe CCW as resembling a Fisher-Price toy and encountering bugs, it surpasses AD Click in user experience. Additionally, consider trying RSLogix Micro Starter Lite (RMSL) for a visually appealing option. Utilize an emulator as demonstrated in a video tutorial to access these applications effectively. RMSL stands out for its aesthetic appeal, potentially setting high expectations for other options. eBay offers a reliable resource for affordable, pre-owned PLCs like MicroLogix 1100s compatible with RMSL programming.
If you're looking to explore programming without the need for hands-on control, consider using Codesys. This free software allows you to use your PC as the main device for programming. However, as a beginner, you may find Codesys to be a bit daunting. Alternatively, A Click is a cost-effective and user-friendly option for learning the basics of programming.
"CCW software is incredibly frustrating to use. It is without a doubt the most poorly designed and buggy software I have ever encountered."
Are you wondering if the free AD Click software offers a simulation feature? I am intrigued and impressed after downloading the software. Considering purchasing a processor to experiment with. To start using the software, it seems like I will need a processor, power supply, and possibly a usb cable. Can you confirm if this is correct?
Ken Moore inquired whether the free AD Click software offers simulation features, expressing interest in exploring them. After downloading the software, he was impressed and considering purchasing a processor for experimentation. To get started, it seems a processor, power supply, and possibly a USB cable are needed. However, having a 24VDC power supply eliminates the need for a click power supply. Additionally, for newer processors with an ethernet port, only an ethernet cable is required. Conversely, for basic units with two RJ12 ports, a specific cable is needed. Ken Moore personally recommends investing in a processor with an ethernet port over RJ12 for enhanced functionality.
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BITS N BYTES strongly criticized CCW software, labeling it as extremely disappointing and filled with bugs. They expressed their frustration by saying it is the worst software they have ever encountered. Despite this, Rockwell continues to endorse it, which is disheartening. It is regrettable that the Micrologix is being phased out, making CCW potentially unavoidable for some customers.
- 31-10-2024
- WhinnieThePooh
Ken Moore expressed his satisfaction after downloading the software, pondering the possibility of purchasing a processor to experiment with. He inquired about the essential components needed to get started, including a processor, a power supply, and potentially a USB cable. Ken was advised to consider the Click PLUS model when purchasing a CPU, with the option to also acquire a cable if necessary from the provided link: https://www.plccable.com/automation-direct-koyo-usb-d2-dscbl-and-click-plcs/.
- 31-10-2024
- geniusintraining
Ken Moore asked if the free AD Click software comes with a simulation feature, expressing interest in using it for personal use. After downloading the software, he was impressed and is considering purchasing a processor to experiment with. It appears that to get started, a processor, power supply, and possibly a USB cable are needed. Regarding a simulator, Click does not have one; however, the A/D DoMore software, which is free and similar to Click, does come with a simulator.
Utilize a USB micro cable to program the Click Plus ethernet models seamlessly. With the ethernet cable for programming, you have the flexibility to make run time edits as needed. Experience efficient and convenient programming with Click Plus ethernet models.
While Rockwell products are often not cheap, there are affordable alternatives worth considering. One such option is Click PLCs, known for their reliability and cost-effectiveness. Another budget-friendly device is the TECO smart relay, priced under $100. For those looking to gain future-proof skills, exploring Codesys options may be a wise investment. Wishing you success in your decision-making process!
geniusintraining commented, prompting Paul to share his true feelings. The situation has improved since before, but is it now possible to effectively cross reference tags without experiencing crashes? Is the system now operating at a faster speed when switching between windows? Let us know your thoughts by clicking to expand.
User arpus4KM mentioned the concept of improvement: does making progress involve...Click to expand...I wouldn't necessarily go as far as that... however, now the application opens when you double click on the icon (no pun intended).
- 31-10-2024
- geniusintraining
As a training genius in the field of programming, I must say that the latest software updates are making things more complicated. Gone are the days when you could easily click on instructions like 'XIO, XIC' directly from the ladder. Now, editing or entering commands has become a tedious process of navigating through a long list on the side of the screen. The simplicity of just typing what you need or double-clicking to make changes is a thing of the past. The newest V36 studio is a whole new level of frustration.
arpus4KM expressed frustration with the decline in usability of programming software. They reminisced about how easy it was to use Pinnacle, where you could simply click on instructions like 'XIO, XIC' directly in the ladder. The ability to type, double-click to edit, use dropdown menus, or any other method made programming effortless. However, the newest V36 studio seems to have taken a step back in this regard. Are these features still available in V36? The user, currently on version 32, is hesitant to update if it means losing functionality.
- 31-10-2024
- WhinnieThePooh
WhinnieThePooh asked whether a feature has been altered in version 36, as they are currently using version 32 and unsure if an upgrade would be beneficial. The feature in question has not been changed, which is a positive aspect. However, what has been altered are the text names for numerous comparison instructions. While seemingly minor, this change signifies a shift towards Rockwell's aim to adopt a more global approach. Instructions that have remained unchanged for over 20 years are now being updated by just one letter to align with IEC standards.
Arpus4KM mentioned that there have been updates to the text names of various comparison instructions. This change may appear minor, but it signifies Rockwell's efforts to align with global standards, such as IEC. Instructions that have been consistent for over 20 years are now being altered by just one letter to move towards IEC compliance. Will older projects, like RSlogix500, automatically update instruction names during migration? Only time will tell.
- 31-10-2024
- WhinnieThePooh
Ken Moore questioned whether the free AD Click software includes simulation capabilities. Unfortunately, there is no simulator, trending, or offline viewing of data values. While the software does allow for PID tagging and functions effectively in that aspect, there are limitations in terms of trending other tags. Moore has suggested the addition of this feature to enhance the software. He has also expressed frustration with the fact that some tags are not retentive by default, leading to data loss on power cycle. Despite these shortcomings, upon downloading the software, Moore was impressed and considering purchasing a processor to experiment with. To get started, a processor, power supply, and possibly a USB cable are needed.
Regarding setting up the Ethernet port, using a USB cable is recommended, especially for updating firmware to match the software version. Click with Ethernet or Click Plus outperforms Micrologix 1400 in various aspects, such as storing all comments on the PLC, editing MSG instructions live, and providing a superior PID instruction with advanced scaling and an effective Auto-tune feature.
I recently purchased the most affordable Click Plus PLC, which requires 24 VDC, features (1) option slot, and includes Ethernet, serial, and microB-USB ports. The PLC does not have on-board I/O, but at just $97, it fits my needs perfectly. I plan on experimenting with it and do not require physical I/O. According to the specifications, it supports 2000 Coils, a significant improvement over older TI controllers with only 512 Coils. I already have a power supply and USB cable, so I believe I am all set. Additionally, I will receive free 2 day shipping. I have a small piece of plywood and din rail ready to go. I am excited to dive back into ladder logic and explore the possibilities, especially after working primarily with Siemens PCS7 function blocks in recent years.
One of the standout features of Click that I love is its user-friendly interface for creating custom Ethernet/IP I/O tables and the option to export a customized .EDS file for easy integration with other software programs. I often utilize Click for remote I/O applications due to its cost-effectiveness compared to traditional remote I/O systems, while still offering full programmability capabilities. This is especially useful for advanced fault handling scenarios that require a more sophisticated response beyond simple output control in case of communication failures.
However, when it comes to regular PLC applications, I find Click to be somewhat lacking in polish. It serves well as a learning tool, but for more complex projects, especially those on a tight budget, I prefer using Productivity PLCs. While a P1000 may cost twice as much as a Click, the investment is still relatively affordable, and the software is provided at no extra cost. In my experience, programming with Productivity PLCs is more efficient, making it a worthwhile investment for professionals whose time is valuable and seek to maximize productivity. Ultimately, opting for a P1000 PLC can lead to cost savings in the long run.
I am a huge supporter of the Click tool and highly recommend checking out their complimentary training videos. Explore these resources to learn more about how to utilize Click effectively.
johnd_125 mentioned that products with Rockwell's name tend to be costly, but suggested considering Click for budget-friendly options that deliver as expected. They also shared their experience using a TECO smart relay device that was priced under $100. For those looking to learn relevant skills for the future, Codesys options may be a good choice as they are forward-thinking. Additionally, RSlogix Micro Starter is an affordable option for PLC projects, specifically for programming the Micrologix series. Good luck with your projects!
Levi G mentioned that AD's Productivity Series now offers support for Codesys, making it potentially the first major vendor to do so. While there are other variations available, having a single integrated development environment (IDE) like this could be a game-changer in the industry. Explore the expansion of Productivity Series with Codesys now!
When selecting a Raspberry Pi for your project, be sure to choose the one that suits your needs best. You will also need the CODESYS runtime, which may require a runtime license for $60. If not, you can continuously restart a 2-hour runtime. Please verify the current pricing structure, as it may have transitioned to a more 'modular' system recently.
In my opinion, it's worth investing a little extra in a processor with an Ethernet port rather than just an RJ12. The Ethernet-only option is more cost-effective compared to other choices, especially when adding an IO card. In my view, there's no reason to settle for a standard Click anymore unless saving a few bucks is a major consideration.
It's frustrating to see the usability of CLICK programming software regressing with each update. Users have reported increased sluggishness and bugs in the latest versions.
Could this be the first well-known vendor to offer support for CODESYS? While there are other options available, having a single IDE is a huge advantage. It's worth noting that there are hundreds of OEMs that support CODESYS, some have their own variations, while others have switched back to the vanilla runtime.
durallymax expressed that a multitude of OEMs offer support for Codesys, with some utilizing their own adaptations and others permitting installation of a vanilla runtime license. Some have even transitioned back to vanilla, like Wago. It is puzzling why some companies invest in creating their own interface when effectiveness should be the priority over aesthetics. As a representative of one of these wrapper brands, I occasionally encounter issues with a proof of concept and resort to using my Raspberry Pi running the vanilla version for troubleshooting.
As noted by mikeexplorer, RSlogix Micro Starter is a cost-effective software used for PLC projects, specifically compatible with the Micrologix series. However, a downside is that the 1000's and 1100's are no longer in production. It would be beneficial if the software could also program the 1400 series PLCs.
- 31-10-2024
- geniusintraining
In comparison to the Micrologix 1400, the Click with Ethernet or Click Plus PLCs offer several advantages: storing all comments on the PLC, live editing of MSG instructions, and an improved PID instruction with superior scaling and an effective Auto-tune feature. Additionally, the high-speed counter configuration is much easier, it can be integrated into the I/O tree of a Compact/ControlLogix, and the program logic is stored in flash memory to prevent loss in case of battery failure (although data will be lost, requiring a routine to detect and restore default values). Overall, these features make the Click PLCs a better choice for industrial automation needs.
A user named geniusintraining pointed out a limitation of RSLogix - the discontinued manufacturing of the 1000's and 1100's. It would be beneficial if they unlocked the 1400 for programming with free software. I agree, as the 1400 is the only option currently on the market. Despite this, I was able to acquire a good condition used 1100 to experiment with on a computer using the complimentary version. I have a preference for the Micrologix series.