I am relieved to hear that it was just a misunderstanding. I thought I had accidentally posted twice or that there was a problem with your account. Thank you once again for your assistance and clarification.
Thank you for clarifying that. I was concerned that Phil may have viewed it as similar to someone distributing pirated content. That's why I shared the link to download from the official GE Fanuc website. I believe that is the most legitimate source available.
Dear all, I am in search of GE Fanuc Series 90-30 PLC software.
I am also looking for the Modicon AEG 984 software.
I am looking for a software solution to establish a connection with a GE Fanuc 90-30 PLC in order to transfer program files. Additionally, I need guidance on the appropriate cable type to link my laptop to the PLC. My operating system is Windows 10.
For expert guidance on Emerson PLC products, reach out to your nearest Emerson distributor. A few years back, GE transferred its PLC line to Emerson. While the programming software was known as Proficy Machine Edition, Emerson may have rebranded it in the recent release. To connect to your Windows 10 PC, you will require a converter as the programming port is a RS485 fifteen pin port located on the power supply module.
Steve, have you been able to utilize the LM90 V9.05 software since the Emerson acquisition? I had a link to it in the past, similar to yours, but it has disappeared. I am urgently searching for it as a crucial customer requires it immediately. Thank you.
I possess the information you seek. Please message me privately with your contact details.
Hello everyone, I recently registered and encountered an issue with my machine's 90-30 Plc. The run light is out and I am unable to connect to it with my old Windows 95 laptop. How can I connect to it using a current laptop and potentially identify the fault? Is there a way to reset it without losing the program and get it back into run mode? Thanks for any help!
Which programming software was installed on your old laptop? Considering it was running on Windows 95, it is likely you were using either Logicmaster or VersaPro. Logicmaster is incompatible with programs created in VersaPro, while VersaPro cannot run on any system newer than Windows XP. To run Logicmaster on a system newer than XP, it will have to be used within a DOSbox. However, the current software, Proficy Machine Edition, is able to connect regardless of the original software used.
If serial communication was used between the programming software and the PLC, using a USB/serial converter with Logicmaster may not be successful, as the connection may not stay open long enough for program uploads or downloads. Regardless of the programming software chosen, rung comments and variable descriptions will not be available. After establishing a connection, you will need to navigate to the fault tables to determine the cause of program shutdown.
Steve Bailey inquired about the programming software used on the old laptop, which was a Windows 95 machine. It appears that either Logicmaster or VersaPro could have been utilized. However, Logicmaster may not be compatible with programs created in VersaPro and VersaPro cannot run on any system newer than Windows XP. Logicmaster may require a DOSbox on systems beyond XP. On the other hand, the current software, Proficy Machine Edition, should be able to connect regardless of the original software.
When it comes to establishing a connection between the programming software and the PLC using serial communications, experiences with a USB/serial converter with Logicmaster have been troublesome, often resulting in unstable connections. Unfortunately, regardless of the programming software used, rung comments and variable descriptions may not be accessible.
If Logicmaster was indeed the software in use, alternative methods may need to be explored for connecting to the port on the laptop, as USB/serial converters have proven to be unreliable. A possible solution could involve using a connector near the PLC that connects to the power supply with a cable.
When it comes to USB/serial converters, compatibility issues may arise specifically with Logicmaster software. If your computer lacks a physical serial port, your optimal solution would be utilizing VersaPro or Machine Edition. The fifteen-pin port found on the power supply functions as an RS485 programming port, operating at default parameters of 19200 baud, 1 stop bit, and odd parity.
Do you think my second laptop has a serial port that I can use for another machine? Take a look at this image of the port - would this cable be compatible with it?
The individual who is the proprietor of plccable.com is an active member on this platform and stands by the quality of the products sold on the website. The issues related to USB/serial converter compatibility stem from limitations within the Logicmaster software, rather than the actual cable being used for the connection. The PLC depicted in the image appears to be a ten-slot version of a 90-30 model with the CPU integrated into the baseplate. The serial communications module positioned in the last slot on the right closely resembles a Horner module designed specifically for this type of PLC. It is noteworthy that GE Fanuc's two-port serial communications module intended for the 90-30 series was only compatible with the modular CPUs, and not with the CPU-in-the-baseplate models such as the CPU311, CPU313, CPU321, and CPU323.
Steve Bailey mentioned that the owner of plccable.com is a member of the community and fully supports the products sold on the website. However, issues with the USB/serial converters are tied to limitations in Logicmaster software rather than the cables themselves. The PLC pictured seems to be a ten-slot version of a GE 90-30 with a CPU integrated into the baseplate. The serial communications module in the rightmost slot resembles a Horner module designed for this type of PLC. Unfortunately, GE Fanuc's two-port serial communications module for the 90-30 is only compatible with modular CPUs and not with the baseplate style CPUs, such as CPU311, CPU313, CPU321, and CPU323.
The situation may seem challenging, but there could still be a solution to get things working again. It's been two days of downtime already, and the urgency to resolve the issue is mounting. Any assistance provided would be greatly appreciated.
Are you staying connected with your nearby Emerson distributor? A few years back, GE transferred their product line to Emerson, with many former GE Fanuc distributors still handling the products. GEXPro and Powermation were once responsible for the products in your region and could offer assistance. While they may suggest upgrading to a more modern option, they could also provide temporary authorization for Machine Edition if you have a strong rapport with them. Keep in touch with them to ensure you have the latest technology at your fingertips.
Steve Bailey suggested reaching out to your local Emerson distributor, as GE transferred the product line to Emerson a few years back. Many former GE Fanuc distributors, such as GEXPro and Powermation, continue to support the product in various areas. It is worth contacting them for assistance, and they may even offer a temporary license for Machine Edition. It is important to consider upgrading to a more current version, as technology constantly evolves. Despite budget constraints, investing in upgrades is crucial for efficiency and productivity. Don't hesitate to follow up with Powermation in Illinois for further assistance.
Thank you for providing all the information. I am curious about what the other end of the cable on the right-hand module is connected to. Upon further inspection, it seems that the PLC is lacking a CPU module in the designated slot. It does not follow the CPU-in-the-baseplate model as initially thought. I am unable to identify the module in the right hand slot. Could you please provide the part number for reference?
Steve Bailey expressed gratitude for receiving the complete information. He inquired about the cable connection on the right-hand module and acknowledged his error in the initial assessment. The PLC is lacking a CPU module between the power supply and the high-speed counter module. It is not a CPU-in-the-baseplate model. The module in the right-hand slot is unfamiliar, and Steve requested a part number for it. The module is connected to the touch screen shown in the picture above. The part number for the module is HE693SNP900, confirming that it is a Horner module as previously mentioned.
I am uncertain about the CPU model. It appears to resemble an IC693CPU323, which includes a CPU chip on the baseplate. Please check the area between the power supply and high-speed counter module to see if there is a "System PROM" chip present. This component is visible in the image provided. If not, the module connection socket should be larger than the other slots. The layout of the programmable logic controller (PLC) seems unconventional, indicating a lack of familiarity with the 90-30 series by the designer. The slot next to the power supply can accommodate I/O modules if the baseplate is for a CPU323. This could have allowed for space-saving and the use of a five-slot CPU313 model.
Steve Bailey mentioned uncertainty regarding the CPU of the PLC system, noting similarities to an IC693CPU323 model with a CPU chip in the baseplate. He suggested examining the space between the power supply and high-speed counter module for a chip labeled "System PROM." If not found, the socket for module connection should be larger compared to other slots. The layout of the PLC appears unconventional, possibly indicating unfamiliarity with the 90-30 model during design. The availability of the slot to the right of the power supply for I/O modules suggests compatibility with a CPU323 baseplate, allowing for potential space-saving by using a five-slot CPU313 model.
In response, a remark was made about the existence of an e-prom chip in that location, which was an upgrade from the problematic German electronics initially installed in the late 90s. The speaker joined the company in 1997 and took over maintenance responsibilities in 1999, finding the system already in place.
Do you need to run Logicmaster on an older Windows XP PC? I recently tested it on an XP virtual machine and successfully communicated with the PLC using a USB/serial converter to clear faults without uploading the program. If you're interested, send me a private message with your email address, and I'll provide you with Logicmaster. While Logicmaster can run on Windows 7 or Windows 10 using DOSbox, it may not be able to communicate serially. Therefore, having access to an XP machine is recommended for optimal usage.
In a recent discussion, Steve Bailey mentioned the importance of having access to a PC with Windows XP or an older operating system. He conducted a test using Logicmaster in an XP virtual machine and successfully communicated with the PLC using a USB/serial converter without uploading the program. To assist others in accessing Logicmaster, he offered to share the software via email. Although Logicmaster can run on Windows 7 or Windows 10 through DOSbox, serial communication is not supported. Therefore, an XP machine is required for optimal functionality. If interested, feel free to reach out via PM for more information!
I have sent you a Logicmaster software zip file along with a USB/RS485 adapter from plccable.com. After installing the driver for the adapter, make sure to check the COM port assigned to it in the Windows Device Manager. Logicmaster only supports communication through COM1 to COM4, so be aware that sometimes the adapter may be assigned a higher port number.
When launching Logicmaster, ensure that the "90-30" above the text "PCM" is highlighted. If not, press + F3 to highlight it and then press F1 to open the programming software. You will then be prompted to select a project file. If there is already a project named "TEMP," select it. If not, create a new project named "TEMP." Keep in mind that Logicmaster only allows uploading from the PLC if the project file name is "TEMP."
Once you have selected the project name, you will be offline with the PLC as indicated at the bottom center of the screen. Press F7 (setup), then F4 to choose the COM port. Use the key to scroll through the options and select the correct COM port, then press F7 to save it. Press twice to return to the main menu. Toggle between Offline, Monitor, and Online by pressing + "M." Note that you need to be online to make any changes.
While online, press F3 (status) and then F3 (plcflt) to view fault messages. To clear the faults, press F9 (clear) and then F4 (io flt) to see and clear the I/O fault table. Once the faults are cleared, you can start the PLC by pressing + "R." If any issues persist, check the fault tables for clues to the underlying problem.
Steve Bailey mentioned that he has sent a zip file containing Logicmaster software. The USB/RS485 adapter from plccable.com needs to have the driver installed, and the COM port assigned to it can be checked in the Windows Device Manager. Logicmaster only supports communication over COM ports 1 through 4, so it is important to ensure the correct port is selected. When launching Logicmaster, make sure to highlight "90-30" above the text "PCM" by pressing + F3. Then press F1 to open the programming software and select a project file named "TEMP" or create one if it does not already exist.
When working on the "TEMP" project, Logicmaster allows uploading from the PLC even if the program name in the PLC is different. However, if the project name is different, Logicmaster will not permit uploads unless the names match. Once the project name is selected, go offline with the PLC and navigate to the COM port settings by pressing F7, then F4. Ensure the correct COM port is selected and save the settings by pressing F7.
Toggle between Offline, Monitor, and Online modes by pressing + "M". Remember that you need to be online to make changes. To view and clear fault messages, press F3 followed by F3 again. Clear any faults by pressing F9 and view the I/O fault table by pressing F4. Once faults are cleared, start the PLC by pressing + "R". If there are still issues preventing the PLC from running, check the fault tables for clues on the underlying problem. If the email with the zip file has not been received, it may be in the clutter folder. Thank you!
Curious if this cable is compatible? Find out more about the GE Fanuc SNP PLC programming cable for the 90-30 Micro series with a built-in IC690ACC901 connector at PlcCable.com.
The device mentioned in post #32 is designed for use with a PC equipped with a genuine RS232 COM port, serving as a RS232/RS485 converter. If you already possess a USB/RS232 converter with a male DB9 connector, it should be compatible. The device featured in the image from post #19 is a USB/RS485 converter, perfect for PCs lacking a dedicated COM port, as it simply plugs into any available USB port. A driver is provided with the converter to assign a COM# to the USB. Ensure that the COM port number assigned to the USB/serial converter falls within the range of COM1 - COM4 for compatibility with Logicmaster, as higher numbers may need manual adjustment.
In response to a query in post #32, Steve Bailey mentioned that the RS232/RS485 converter referenced is designed for PCs equipped with a genuine RS232 COM port. For those already using a USB/RS232 converter with a male DB9 connector, it should be compatible. The USB/RS485 converter depicted in post #19 is specifically for PCs lacking a COM port, plugging into any USB port and utilizing an included driver to designate the USB as a COM#. It is crucial to verify the COM port number assigned to the USB/serial converter, as Logicmaster software only supports COM1 - COM4. Occasionally, these converters may be assigned higher COM port numbers necessitating manual adjustment within the acceptable range. Additionally, there is a query about the compatibility of a 9-pin RS232 converter with a 15-pin power supply.
Are you struggling to choose between the cable/converter units displayed in the photos for your XP laptop? If your XP laptop is equipped with a genuine 9-pin RS232 serial port, opt for the one showcased in post #32. However, if your XP laptop only features a USB port, then go for the unit highlighted in post #19. In case you already possess a USB/serial converter with USB on one end and a 9-pin RS232 on the other, you can utilize the converter mentioned in post #32, which supports RS485 on the 15-pin side. This will ensure seamless compatibility and functionality for your specific setup.
This morning, I checked my email and found that it was empty.
It's possible that either your email server or mine had issues with the .zip attachment. To ensure you receive the file, I have uploaded it to my Google Drive and shared it with you. Keep an eye out for a notification and a link in your inbox. If you don't see it, please let me know so I can explore alternative options.
In a forum discussion, Steve Bailey mentioned that issues with USB/serial converters are specific to Logicmaster software. If your computer lacks a real serial port, your best alternative is to utilize VersaPro or Machine Edition. For GE 90-30 PLC programming, the fifteen-pin port on the power supply serves as an RS485 programming port with default parameters set at 19200 baud, 1 stop bit, and odd parity.
I am joining this discussion to address a related problem I am encountering. I am attempting to download a program to a GE 90-30 PLC that was installed approximately twelve years ago. The PLC lost power and the program was erased. Although I obtained the program from the OEM, I am experiencing difficulty downloading it back to the PLC. My connection is unstable.
I installed PME V9.5 on a Windows 7 virtual machine and managed to open the OEM program with a trial license. Despite using a GE 90-30 cable from plccables.com, I could not establish a connection with the PLC through PME on the VM. I then attempted to create a "cheater cable" and connect using a USB-RS232 converter, but the connection kept dropping within 30 seconds, disrupting the download process.
I experimented with installing USB drivers on the VM and sharing my COM port with the VM from the host device, yet encountered the same issues. I am considering obtaining a Windows 7 laptop to install PME directly, as I face compatibility issues with my Windows 10 machine. Any suggestions on resolving this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Encountering issues with serial communications in a virtual machine is a common problem. The physical USB/serial device typically has a COM port number allocated by the host, which needs to be properly bridged to the VM. If you are experiencing connectivity issues, ensure that the COM port is set up correctly. Pay attention to the LEDs on your USB/serial converter, as they can indicate communication activity. If you notice consistent blinking when attempting to establish a connection, it may be a case of the VM using a different COM port than the assigned one. On the other hand, sporadic blinking suggests that there may be a wiring problem or a mismatch in port parameters. Make sure to troubleshoot these issues to ensure smooth serial communication.
Thank you, Steve, for your reply. The USB-Serial LEDs, as well as the Comms LED on the GE controller, were blinking intermittently while using the USB-RS485 device from plccables.com. The blinking frequency was not consistent enough on both devices to establish a strong connection, and PME kept retrying to connect. It doesn't appear to be a mismatch issue. When I switched to a USB-RS232 device and created a workaround, the blinking was more regular and PME successfully connected, though somewhat sporadically. I suspect this may be related to a virtual machine (VM) issue. Could the version of PME be a factor? I am in the process of locating another laptop running Windows 7 within my organization. Hopefully, this change will help resolve the issue.
Hey Steve, just wanted to give you an update and share with anyone else reading this thread. I recently used the GE Fanuc USB SNP PLC cable IC690USB901-90-30-90-70 from https://www.plccable.com/ once again, this time on a laptop running Windows 7 (64bit) directly. Using PME v9.5, just like before on a VM, I was able to connect effortlessly and without any issues. I spent a lot of time troubleshooting with VMs in the past, but this time it worked seamlessly on a physical machine. If you're having trouble with VM setups, consider using an older machine to connect to these PLCs. Thanks for the support and advice!
Wishing you a wonderful day ahead! I am currently facing challenges with my GE Fanuc 90-30 PLC system. The previous project stored in the PLC crashed, so we utilized a similar project from a different source which worked successfully. However, I am now encountering issues as my PLC is not functioning properly.
Firstly, I am using PME 7.0 with a firmware version of 10.74 on my CPU350 (built 23A1). Should I update my PME software for better performance?
Secondly, I am experiencing difficulties with my PCM301. After downloading and running the PLC, the work LED Indicator "OK" is displayed on the PCM, but the US1 and US2 LEDs fail to flash. Previously, a different engineer resolved the issue by downloading the same project onto the same PLC and it worked. Now, I am receiving a fault loc 0.2 "comm req bad task ID program" error when starting the PLC in Run mode. How can I troubleshoot and rectify this issue?
Upon initial installation of ME, users are granted a four-day grace period before requiring a license.
According to NetNathan, after installing ME, you have a 4-day grace period before needing a license. However, if the license becomes an issue, can I simply uninstall and reinstall the program?
To extend the 4-day trial period of ME, simply uninstall and reinstall the software if you do not have a license. Uninstalling the software will not result in the deletion of any project files. This method allows users to continue using the software without a license.
SeaVoltage mentioned the possibility of needing to uninstall and reinstall a program to resolve a license issue. If the license is not a problem, there is no need for this tedious process. However, if you do need to extend your license, you can uninstall and reinstall the program to achieve this. Keep in mind that the uninstallation process may be a bit involved.