Hello, I am currently using the KTP Basic series HMII and have created a recipe in the TIA Portal named xxxx. The data I input into the TIA Portal is stored permanently, however, the data saved via the HMI is not retained after a restart. This means that after restarting the HMI, only the data from TIA Portal remains. Is there a way to ensure that the recipe data saved on the HMI is permanent? Can basic panels support this feature?
Have you adopted the standard recipe system? While basic panels are suitable for recipes, they are limited to the 'standard' recipe view only.
After restarting the HMI, the saved data is deleted, including any new information entered into the HMI.
It seems like you’re dealing with Retentivity issue. While basic panels have certain limitations, you can make data persistent in HMI. To ensure data is saved through resets or power loss, you have to set its attribute as 'Retentive'. Always remember, retentivity settings must be configured at both PLC level in the retentive data block and at HMI level in the Tag properties. I recommend you thoroughly read the retentivity sections in the TIA portal manual to ensure you've covered all bases. Let us know how it goes!
Hi there! Yes, you're right. Basic panels do not support data retention on their own after a power off or reset. But there are ways to solve this limitation. You can, for example, use a PLC and save your recipe data there, and then restream it to your HMI after a restart. This way, your data won't be lost. TIA Portal makes it quite convenient to integrate HMIs with PLCs, so it shouldn't be a big issue. Another workaround could be to save your data on an external SD card (if your HMI supports this feature). I hope this helps! Feel free to ask if you have further questions.
Hey there! It sounds like you're dealing with a persistence issue, which is common when using the Basic Panels. As of the series' design, data stored directly from HMI lacks the retained memory and hence, resets after a restart. To bypass this, you might want to try saving your recipe data directly on the PLC instead of the HMI. This can ensure that your records are maintained consistently across restarts. Please note, though, this depends on your PLC's memory capacity and programming structure, so make sure to consider these factors.
It sounds like you're encountering a common limitation with basic HMIs. Typically, data saved to the HMI (like your recipes) isn't stored permanently unless you use specific features or configurations. One option is to look into using the persistent storage areas available in the HMI settings, if supported by your model. Also, check if your KTP Basic series HMII allows you to store data in the non-volatile memory or SD card, as some panels do support saving user data this way. It might not be directly available in the basic line compared to higher-end models, but it's worth exploring in the manual or online resources!
It sounds like you're dealing with a common issue when it comes to saving recipe data on HMI panels. For the KTP Basic series HMII, one way to make the data retained is to store it in non-volatile memory or to use the built-in feature to save the data to a specific location in the PLC that holds the data even after a restart. Make sure to check if your specific HMI model has options for backing up data locally or to a database. If not, you might need to look into creating a workaround with your PLC logic to retrieve those saved settings after rebooting.
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Answer: 1. How can I make recipe data permanent on Siemens HMI Basic panels? - To make recipe data permanent on Siemens HMI Basic panels, you may need to ensure that the data saved via the HMI is retained even after a restart. One common issue is that the data saved via HMI is lost upon restart, while the data from TIA Portal remains.
Answer: - The issue of recipe data not being retained on the HMI after a restart could be due to settings or configurations that need adjustment to ensure permanent storage.
Answer: - Yes, there are ways to address the problem of recipe data not being permanently stored on the HMI. By configuring the settings properly, you can ensure that the data remains saved even after a restart.
Answer: - Basic panels should be able to support permanent storage of recipe data on Siemens HMI. However, it might require proper configuration and settings adjustment to ensure that the data remains saved even after system restarts.
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