Hello, I own a Mitsubishi FX3G 14M PLC and an E615 HMI from Mitsubishi/Beijer. I am currently utilizing GXWorks 2 for programming with no issues in simulating the program. As for the HMI, I am utilizing E-Designer 7.52. I have encountered difficulty in finding resources on simulating the HMI with the PLC. Most resources I have found involve using a real PLC with the HMI. Is it indeed impossible to simulate the HMI alongside the PLC using a simulator?
The lack of a simulation mode in E-designer software has rendered it obsolete. Beijers has transitioned to the newer IX or later series, while the E series has been rebranded for Mitsubishi. However, Mitsubishi has since introduced their own GOT series, replacing Beijers. The software used for the GOT series is GT Designer, which includes a simulator that can be connected to GXworks simulator. Unlike the newer series, the E series requires a physical HMI & PLC for simulation purposes.
Parky mentioned that E-designer does not have a simulation mode and is considered obsolete. Beijers has transitioned to the newer IX series or later, with the E series being rebranded for Mitsubishi. However, Mitsubishi has discontinued Beijers in favor of their own GOT series, which uses GT Designer software with a simulator that can connect to GXworks simulator. For the E series, a physical HMI & PLC are required. Thank you for the thorough response. Is there any alternative software available for the E615 that supports simulation?
As far as I know, E-designer was discontinued around 2015 and was never updated to include a simulation feature. However, I have found a solution by using GT Designer, which offers a simulation mode that can connect to GXWorks2 or GXDeveloper. By copying the tags into GT Designer, I was able to create a functional HMI based on my experience with E-designer. While the transition was a bit lengthy, it served my purposes well. It is worth noting that the functions of the GOT differ slightly from E-designer, requiring some adjustments. Overall, I believe E-designer was superior to Beijers IX software and Mitsubishi GOT, despite missing some features.
hafizzz_ahmad inquired about a replacement software for E615 that supports simulation. Beijer does not offer a replacement, but you can simulate a PLC/HMI environment using GT Designer 3 and GX Works 2, which are commonly used to program Mitsubishi GOT HMIs. If you have installed GX Works 2 through the "iQ Works" package, it also includes GX Works 3 and GT Designer 3.
Hello there! I also use the Mitsubishi/Beijer setup and have a bit of experience with this. In terms of your question, it's not necessarily impossible, but it's indeed challenging to simulate the HMI alongside the PLC due to the system's inherent complexities. In my experience, simulators often do not fully encompass all the subtle intricacies of a real PLC and HMI pair. A few workarounds might be to debug your HMI scripts as much as possible before integration or to use a virtual PLC software that accommodates HMI simulations. I hope this insight helps!
Hey there, I've been in a similar position before. I can confirm that it's indeed challenging to simulate an HMI alongside a PLC without an actual PLC. This is mainly because HMI simulators are designed to visualize the interaction between a human operator and the PLC to replicate real-world scenarios. It's not entirely impossible; however, the functionality may be limited. You might want to seek out a modular form of simulation software that can better imitate this process. If things get too challenging, you may want to consider investing in an actual PLC - it could prove beneficial in the long run for debugging and testing.
It's great to hear that you're having a smooth experience with GX Works 2 for your PLC programming! Regarding your question about simulating the HMI with the PLC, while E-Designer doesn’t provide a built-in option for HMI simulation alongside the PLC, you could consider using a separate approach. Some users have had success by utilizing virtual machines or PC-based simulation tools that mimic the PLC environment alongside the HMI, allowing them to test interaction without physical hardware. It might take a bit of setup, but it could be worth exploring if you're looking to simulate the full system. Have you tried reaching out to community forums or user groups specific to Mitsubishi products? Sometimes fellow users can provide the best tips and tricks!
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Answer: - Unfortunately, simulating both the HMI and PLC together without physical hardware can be challenging as most resources focus on using a real PLC with the HMI for simulation.
Answer: - While direct simulation without physical hardware may be complex, you could explore virtualization software or emulators that mimic the behavior of the HMI and PLC for testing.
Answer: - The complexity arises from the interaction between the HMI and PLC systems, which may require real-time communication and synchronization that is typically achieved with physical hardware connections.
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