Troubleshooting Krones Filler Height Adjustment for Beer Bowl - Help Needed!

Question:

Hey there! I recently started my journey in a brewery and I've encountered a hiccup with the krones filler height adjustment system for the beer bowl. The machine is indicating an issue with the distance between the bowl and the centering bell cam being too small. Despite ensuring that both the cam and the bowl are in their correct positions, I attempted to adjust the probe (4 to 20 mA) on its own. However, the height only increased from 0 to 563 instead of the desired 0 to 1658. Even after swapping out the probe, the replacement behaved in the same manner. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a bunch!

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If you are experiencing a scaling issue similar to what occurred in the S7 model, where your measured value (ranging from 0 to 27xxx) needs to be scaled by FC105 to a value ranging from 0 to 1658, such as for determining height.

The analog input card could potentially be faulty.

Thank you to everyone for your help. It turns out that the analog input card was faulty. I realize I still have much to learn in this field!

I have recently begun working in a factory production facility at CSDI, operating a filler machine. I am seeking assistance with using the manual product touchscreen interface. Can anyone offer guidance on navigating this feature effectively?

Hey! It sounds like you've already done some pretty diligent troubleshooting. I had a similar issue once and it turned out to be a calibration problem within the PLC system, not the probe itself. Try looking into resetting and reprogramming the PLC. Also, make sure your input/output module isn't faulty. Remember to double-check any beer bowl height adjustments to make sure they're reflected in the PLC system. Keep us posted - I hope this helps and good luck!

I've encountered a similar issue in my brewery and found that in some cases the problem may not be with the probe or the cam at all. It could be a fault with the PLC (Programmable Logic Controller) instead. The PLC can sometimes misinterpret the quantity parameters, giving you an inaccurate reading despite your attempted adjustments. You should try recalibrating your PLC. If problems persist, it might be advisable to hire a technician specializing in brewery equipment and PLCs. Hope this helps!

Sounds like you've done some solid troubleshooting so far. Based on what you’re describing, it might not necessarily be an issue with the probe itself, especially if the replacement exhibited similar behavior. I'd suggest checking the input module, it may not be reading the whole 4-20 mA range correctly. Also, make sure that the probe's wiring itself isn't damaged and that the connections are secure. Lastly, you may want to verify that the Krones setting for this system is configured correctly. Sometimes these irregularities can simply be a software glitch. Keep us posted on your progress and good luck!

Hi there! Sounds like you've really dug into this issue. From my experience, if adjusting the probe and swapping it out hasn't fixed the problem, the issue might lie elsewhere. There could be a calibration issue with the PLC reading. Try checking the signal output scaling (4-20 mA) in your PLC Input card configurations. Adjust it according to the probe range (0-1658). If you've already ensured that mechanically everything is correct, then you probably have a software or electrical issue. Also, ensure to check the wires properly. There may be instances where minor wire corrosions can cause high resistance leading to incorrect current signal being read by the PLC. Hope this helps!

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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

FAQ: 1. What could be causing the issue with the Krones filler height adjustment system for the beer bowl?

Answer: Answer: The issue could be related to the distance between the bowl and the centering bell cam being too small, despite ensuring correct positioning of both components.

FAQ: 2. How can I address the problem of the height adjustment increasing to 563 instead of the desired 1658 on the Krones filler?

Answer: Answer: One possible solution is to troubleshoot the probe (4 to 20 mA) and ensure it is functioning correctly, as well as checking for any potential calibration issues.

FAQ: 3. Why does the replacement probe behave in the same manner even after swapping it out in the Krones filler height adjustment system?

Answer: Answer: The consistent behavior of the replacement probe could indicate a deeper issue with the system that may require further investigation or professional assistance to resolve.

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